Open your eyes...

[Truth Knight]

This is the first full fledged Truth Knights' production. Enjoy

[The seeker]

Mashaa' Allah dear brother ,
good job .
It was a professional piece .

Allow me to add few notes on it ,
on minute 2 , the writings is a litter pale , I had to pause the clip to read it
I am waiting for more things like this , the video was a pretty collective of many issues , Jesus manhood , bible discrepencies , Trinity , Idols worshiping in Christianity , I think it would be very nice - very tiring too - if you made a video for each in a more intensive focusing , that would Make a great collection , I think . .
May Allah ( swt) accept your efforts and reward you well for them .
Your little brother , seeker

[Truth Knight]

jAkk my brother. All comments noted, thank you. It was meant to be a short clip with lots of subjects. Not to illustrate points, but to get people to think on their own.

isA the next one will be better

Da3awatkom

[LayDominican]

My opinion of this $#*t. $#*t should be insulted to be a label to this vomit.

[Amatullah]

Lay........You knew before watching that video that we think that calling a man, a God (SWT) is a "sinful" act against Allah (SWT). The video is a dramatization to try and get people's attention. To draw their attention to the fact that Isa is not God (SWT). It is an important part of Islam to tell people not to worship false 'god's'. It is a main tenet, a pillar. Isa is a prophet and we love him and hold him in very high esteem. Shirk, which is associating partners with Allah or associating Allah's characteristics to someone else, is an unforgivable sin. We have to bring that up when we talk about Islam. If we skipped it because it seems politically incorrect or because someone might get mad, then we would have to answer to Allah (SWT).

Five days ago, you ridiculed our beliefs, made fun of the Prophet and then you apologized for being nasty and said you would answer any questions we ask. That should include telling us constructively what you see wrong with the movie. Brother Ahmad is looking for feedback. You know he is a good man and would not intentionally try to upset you. If you want him to consider what you think about the video, you need to give your response and leave out the personal attacks. It may surprise you to know that a couple of us had reservations about the superimposed Shaytan. But nevertheless, it is the truth that we believe the story of Isa rising from the dead is from Shaytan and not Allah (SWT) You don't have to believe that, but you have to understand, we do and that will not change, regardless of how much it bothers you. If you want people to consider Christianity, you cannot keep attacking us for our honest beliefs. It will not change anything, except it gives alot of these people who have not been around Christians a terrible impression of what Christians are like. You believe you are defending Jesus, but you ignore that you are not following Jesus, when you go into the attack mode. This is why so many people can't share and exchange beliefs. They cannot control their urge to attack people for being different. I hope you will try to prove that you are better than that.

[Truth Knight]

Nice going Lay . So which part exactly did you consider $#*t? The words of the OT God in your book? The words of Jesus in your book? What exactly? One phrase of insults didn't really help much. Didn't help the ones who did the film nor did it help the ones watching.

Please give us your critical analysis. A constructive one so all of us can see your point.

[LayDominican]

TK,

Yes I knew that you did not consider Jesus a god. that is good because he is not a god, but is God, The truly Almighty God, the one True God. What you have done with that film is unforgiveable to me as a Roman Catholic. You took a pillar, a tenet of my Faith, and demonize it. And all this time I looked upon you as an open minded person with real questions. I did not expect anyont to become Catholic, but that rubbish you call a video goes beyond anything that I have ever seen or read. Shame on you TK, shame.

[Truth Knight]

Yes Lay, shame on me and my rubbish. You still didn't tell me where I went wrong. Are the verses not from the bible? Are the pictures not of Christians -mostly Catholics btw? Did the historians or priests not say this?

If you want to discuss this Lay, then let's. But I'm afraid you'll get even more upset. Not because anything in the film is wrong, but because they go against your belief. Mind you, not your religion or your book, but your own personal church indoctrinated belief.

[LayDominican]

TK,

Believing Jesus is equal with God, is from the lips of Jesus Himself. But you Qu'ran says He is not, so the Qu'ran must be right, and the Bible wrong. In one quote in your Qu'ran you say that God does not wish anyone to worship anyone else but the One True God, and his messenagers and his prophets. Now, why would God tell you to worship angels? or worship prophets? No where in the Bible are we told to worship the Angels. In fact, from an angels own mouth we are told not to worship him. I believe in is in the Book of Tobit. But since you do not believe in the Bible, what difference does it make what it says or what I present as coming from Holy Scriptures?

Jesus hanging on the cross and you put on a devil's head. What arrogance. You are saying the Jesus is the devil. And please do not pretent anything else. You place the devil mask on the dying Jesus. I could stop there, but you use simple slightly darken white letters when quoting from the Bible. And when quoting from Qu'ran the letters are bigger and much whiter. The music is Santantic in nature and you use an amptified sound when the stature fell. All tricks to prove your silly point. Where or how you got the footage is really not important. I think a lot of things are stage. No, TK, the so called Truth Knight, your own title is a falsehood. You only know the truth that you want to be true. You have made no effort to even understand the words and work that I am trying to explain to you. I think the title of Red Prince fits you better. It is one of the names of the devil himself, the Red Prince. Please take me off the rolls here, I no longer wish to be counted among the wicked. As St. Paul said, be wary of those who speak a different Gospel . And St. John warns that at first things will seem as Light and clean, but they are really Darkness and unclean. I do not want to associate with anyone that buys into this facade of lies.

[Truth Knight]

TK,

Believing Jesus is equal with God, is from the lips of Jesus Himself.

Give me one quote "from the lips of Jesus himself" as you say stating that, and I'll accept it immediately. Just one quote in the entire book. Let me even broaden it for you. Any of the following will do: "I am God", "I am equal with God", "worship me". Now don't go get me some "custom made" quotations that you explain as you like. I want the clear unequivocal statement of Jesus himself.

But you Qu'ran says He is not, so the Qu'ran must be right, and the Bible wrong.

Naturally. What do you think? That I'll believe your book over mine?! Again, I personally have found hundreds of errors in the bible, and not a single one in the Holy Qur'an. Which book do I believe then?

In one quote in your Qu'ran you say that God does not wish anyone to worship anyone else but the One True God, and his messenagers and his prophets. Now, why would God tell you to worship angels? or worship prophets?

Again, you're blaming the Qur'an and Muslims for your lack of understanding Lay. Read:

"Allâh bears witness that none has the right to be worshiped but He, and the angels, and those having knowledge also give this witness; He maintains His creation in Justice. None has the right to be worshiped but He, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise." (Surat Aali Imran : 18)

Do you understand from this that Muslims are supposed to worship messengers or angels?! You were too blinded by anger to see it seems, so read it again.

No where in the Bible are we told to worship the Angels. In fact, from an angels own mouth we are told not to worship him. I believe in is in the Book of Tobit. But since you do not believe in the Bible, what difference does it make what it says or what I present as coming from Holy Scriptures?

Actually all I'm trying to tell you is that this hanging on the cross is not Jesus, your bible doesn't say almost anything from what you do now and that you compare the church practice to what Jesus says. It's true that the bible says you shouldn't worship angels, but did you miss all the pictures of Christians worshiping pictures, trees and humans in the film? If so, then watch again. It's the entire first half.

And because you keep missing it, let me give it to you upfront again. Your bible says worship ONLY God (SWT), the Father. What you do is worship men, wood and stone. YOU are the ones going against the teachings of Jesus, not me.

Jesus hanging on the cross and you put on a devil's head. What arrogance. You are saying the Jesus is the devil. And please do not pretent anything else. You place the devil mask on the dying Jesus.

THIS IS NOT THE DYING JESUS. How many times do I need to repeat that? Isa (PBUH) did NOT die. Allah (SWT) spared him this shameful death to hang naked on a cross with nothing covering his body, people slapping him on the back of his neck, spitting on him, whipping him and torturing him. What are you people doing to the great messenger (PBUH)? You're worshiping a dead thing, but by no means is it Jesus.

I could stop there, but you use simple slightly darken white letters when quoting from the Bible. And when quoting from Qu'ran the letters are bigger and much whiter.

So nothing's wrong with the film so now we'll discuss cinematics?! Seriously? OK then let's do that. There was ONE incident where the biblical quote was in a different shade -about 10 more in pure, bright white with big letters . That doesn't mean that this quotation is bad. It was to emphasize it -and apparently it worked. If you haven't noticed, all the quotations from the bible were saying the same thing as the Ayahs of the Qur'an. There was no trial at contrast here. It was the other way around. I was showing that the bible says the exact same thing as the Qur'an when it comes to worshiping God (SWT) -especially from the lips of Jesus- yet Christians choose to do otherwise. I hope you got that now.

The music is Santantic in nature and you use an amptified sound when the stature fell. All tricks to prove your silly point.

Yes Lay, all tricks to prove my "silly point" . The music is "satanic in nature"? I don't even know how you classify that. Does the bible speak of certain types of music that are satanic in nature? I must have missed this part. And you have no comment on the statue falling other than that the braking sound was amplified? Nothing wrong with your God braking? You're amazing

Where or how you got the footage is really not important. I think a lot of things are stage.

This footage is all over the internet. Just go to youtube and find it for yourself. How could anyone stage "braking the god" anyway?

No, TK, the so called Truth Knight, your own title is a falsehood. You only know the truth that you want to be true. You have made no effort to even understand the words and work that I am trying to explain to you. I think the title of Red Prince fits you better. It is one of the names of the devil himself, the Red Prince. Please take me off the rolls here, I no longer wish to be counted among the wicked. As St. Paul said, be wary of those who speak a different Gospel . And St. John warns that at first things will seem as Light and clean, but they are really Darkness and unclean. I do not want to associate with anyone that buys into this facade of lies.

So said everyone who has no foundation to his beliefs. You know Lay, do what you want. You weren't answering me here or on our discussion thread anyway. We only got as far as who your god was and you didn't know! I knew you were like every Christian I met. You have no idea where your belief comes from, you have no idea who your god is or what you're worshiping, and whenever anyone questions the "whys" and "where froms" of your worship, you just run away cursing and swearing. And if I'm that wicked and "the devil himself" as you say, I wouldn't want you mingling with the likes of me. You wanna leave? Just go ahead and leave. But please spare me your nervous breakdowns every day or 2. If you think someone else on the forum isn't "the devil himself", go ahead and talk to them.

"You do not guide whom you love, but Allah guides whomever He pleases".

[LayDominican]

False Knight,

It is what I expect from you anymore. You have read the Bible and and you know what Jesus said. But you would rather believe those who say the bible is false, and by doing so, makes that ###### called the Qu'ran true. What a joke you have become. I want nothing more to do with you. I should have listen to those who warned me about Muslims. I stood up for you, RP, and I am repaid with this trash of propaganda. Do not think for a moment that I would buy into that pack of lies. The whispering voice saying "open your eyes" is old trick. Ampifing the sounds of the falling statue and all the tricks of the trade.

Finally, when you were on my group, you left because of all the hate that was coming your way. Why should I come to here with the thoughts of that movie in my mind and pretend that all is all right?

I want you to erase my name from this den of liars and unbelievers. I wish no more to be associated with this lousy group.

Moderator: Insults on Qur'an erased. Forum rules violation. This is a warning to the member LayDominican.

[LayDominican]

I want nothing more to do with this $#*t hole of a group and especially you. You call yourselves believers of the True God. The Prophet was a #### and your religion is ####. Now Leave me alone.

Moderator: Insults on The Prophet (PBUH) and Islam erased. Forum rules violation. This is a warning to the member LayDominican.

[Truth Knight]

Yes, I know the bible very well. I know the bible much more than you, or any christian does. I know you choose to follow the words of the devil over the words of Jesus, so guess whose company you'll be among?

Your insults only show how you were raised; very poorly. Personal insults don't bother me. Allah (SWT) says in the Holy Qur'an:

"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks; they will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths; what their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom." (Surat Aali Imran : 118)

See your face in the mirror yet?

As for why your insults don't bother me, Allah (SWT) says:

"To those who immigrate (from their homes) in the cause of Allah, after being harmed and oppressed ― We will assuredly give a goodly home in this world: but truly the reward of the Hereafter will be greater if they only realize (this)! (They are) those who persevere in patience, and put their trust on their Lord." (An-Nahl : 41-42)

That's the only answer I have for your childish swears. Sob7an Allah. After all, who would know the creation but the Creator?

As for "wiping your name", excuse me, but who exactly is begging you to stay on the forum? If you wanna leave, be my guest. You've heard me say "I want you with us" for the last time. If no one on this forum is to your liking just leave. What do you want from me? To block you so you can't access the forum no more?! I won't do that. Every word of hate you write shows everyone, Muslims and non Muslims, what a hateful person you are, and how your faith is represented. After all, your god says "By their fruits ye shall know them", and sure enough, your fruits' stinch reaches the other end of the world.

And excuse me, when on earth did you stand up for anyone on your forum? You couldn't even stand up for yourself, so please don't deceive yourself. You always shied out whenever people were attacking Islam generally and me personally. Don't believe your own lies please. Not healthy.

Your insults to the Holy Qur'an and the Prophet violate the forum rules, so they'll be erased. The context will be left intact so everyone would know exactly what you were saying.

[Truth Knight]

Forgot to mention how ironic it is to read your words in your posts followed by the deceitful signature you put. Kinda makes you wonder how the christian mind works

[Amatullah]

I was listening to Peace TV this morning and this quote stood out in my mind. I'm paraphrasing Mohammad (pbuh), but the main idea is there.

"The strong person is not the one who wrestles and overpowers his opponents. The strong person is the one who controls himself in times of anger.”